their administrators said, look, we are life specks in the world economy. we are just a teeny little country and we understand that we have to be better than most if we're going to compete. so what both of those countries have done is make the concerted effort to emphasize mathematics instruction. they take upwards of eight hours of math a week. and they have innovative program to teach it. they understand that their kids are going to have to know this stuff. they drill them. they discipline them and they succeed. it's not rocket science. and i think if our schools understood that they were in the same competitive pool that we would try to do the same sort of innovation and i will say one more thing. if the teachers union will allow that kind of innovation here. >> one of the things that i like about this is it does at least wake up america. it says, you know what, your success in the world economy is not guaranteed. >> yes. but lick ken stein and switzerland's success in the world has to do the banks and secrecy and low taxes. a country of about 20,000 peo